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Briggs 4360-130 Hathaway Elongated Bowl

Briggs 4360-130 Hathaway Elongated Bowl

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Brand: Briggs
Category: Kitchen

Buy New: $117.64

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MPN: 4360-130
UPC: 671021370597
EAN: 0671021370597
ASIN: B000MIN5MU

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Features:
   Hathaway Elongated Bowl

Editorial Reviews:

Product Description
1.6 gallon water saving toilet bowl that features an enduring classic design and the strength of the award winning Vacuity flushing technology. Stain resistant vitreous china. Bowl maintains a 10" x 12" water surface, empties utilizing rim jets for cleani


Customer Reviews:

1 out of 5 stars Not worth the _ _ _ _ it carries   December 28, 2008
Brett Henry
Briggs toilets came installed in our house when we bought it (new). Every single one of them is horrible. 9 out of 10 times they don't actually flush. Usually it takes 3-4 flushes just to get toilet paper gone. Save your money and buy a different brand.


4 out of 5 stars Easily fixable design defect makes this a great toilet   April 8, 2008
G. Fortmann (Illinois, USA)
1 out of 1 found this review helpful

The other reviewers are probably correct in all that they say, this toilet, left as it comes from factory is likely one of the worst performing out there. But there is a very simple fix that makes this a great toilet. I have had it already for 3 months with no problems what-so-ever.

I was lucky to realize the problems in the design of this toilet before I installed it and so a few minutes of my time solved the clogging issues that others have experiences (I have never experienced any). The result is a great flushing toilet, that looks very nice, is very silent and cost me very little because it was on clearance. I would recommend you buy it especially if you get a good deal, but YOU MUST fix the design issue I am about to explain.

The toilet outlet (where the waste goes out at the bottom) is where the problem resides. Instead of following the waste-channel all the way so it just smoothly ends in a hole at the bottom of the toilet, the waste-channel in this toilet widens near the end and then shrinks back to the original radius at a 90 degree angle, creating a shelf that will easily trap stuff. Anyone that knows anything about gravity operated drains knows that you must go from smaller tubes to larger tubes and then to even larger ones; you never go the other way or else.. things will get stuck. The way this toilet is designed you end up with a widening just before the smaller bottom hole and this is what causes the problems.

What I did was to simply fill out the hollow area with toilet-wax so that the channel remains at a constant radius all the way to the exit hole. You do not need to do much filling, the widening is less than an inch tall and not much more than half an inch in depth, but if you do not fill it up with something you will be in trouble.

I was surprised by this design issue and was not prepared with a solution, so I used the old wax of the toilet I was replacing (I used gloves and picked carefully), but if I had to do this again I would have probably used a glue-gun to fill out this area. I really do not think I will have problems, but I would have preferred something harder than wax for this. Please post your solution.

Just because there are all kinds of people out there let me state it CLEARLY that you can not make me responsible for any issues with the solution I propose, you should undertake it at your own risk and I am only providing a solution that worked out for me, but that is not guaranteed to work for you nor is it guaranteed that it will not cause you any other kind of trouble.

Finally, about the unclogging: the toilet manual clearly states that you have to remove the water-tank lid, remove the vacuum bottle and cover the vacuum tube with something while you are unclogging or else you will achieve nothing. There is no need to complain about this because a solution is available and it is quite simple. In my case, I have not had to do this.. no clogging ever.






1 out of 5 stars Briggs Vacuity Toilet   January 1, 2008
Joseph L. Fein
This is absolutely the worst toilet I have ever owned. I purchased this toilet on a recommendation from Consumer Report. After phone calls to the factory representative, who provided no help, I have decided to replace this toilet. I purchased this toilet from Lowe's and noticed that several months later, Lowe's had discontinued sales on this brand of toilet completely. The salesman said the reason was that they had received so many complaints because the toilet stops up frequently and it is nearly impossibly to unclog with a plunger.


1 out of 5 stars Briggs Vacuity toilet is Unsatisfactory   August 16, 2007
Victor H. Agresti (Gaithersburg, MD United States)
Briggs Vacuity Toilet:

About four years ago, Consumer Reports ranked the Briggs Vacuity the #1 toilet, of dozens of models tested. Gerber's pressure assist toilet was ranked #2. We bought one of each. (Search Amazon on "Gerber 21-318 Pressure Assist Toilet" for my review of the Gerber toilet.)

Noise:

- The Briggs gravity-fed Vacuity system is about as quiet as a toilet gets.

Clogging:

- This model clogs easily. As a result, we generally avoid using it for..., well, the thing it was designed for. Clogs don't occur in the bowl (since the exit hole is huge) as in most other toilets, but in the trap-way in the toilet base. Clogs are a real chore to unclog, since plungers have no effect. Instead of forcing/sucking air through the trap-way, a plunger simply moves air through a separate pipe that goes to the toilet tank, without affecting the trap-way. When it clogs, we try more flushes. After as many as a dozen flushes (letting the bowl water subside each time), or letting it sit for hours, it usually passes through on its own. If not, I've figured out how to de-clog this thing: refer to the diagram in one of the Customer Images, above, for details. A toilet auger (short snake designed for toilets) might also work.

- Federal standards allow toilets to use up to 1.6 gallons per flush. My Briggs Vacuity uses only 1.1 gallons (142 oz.) per flush. This saves water, but it certainly contributes to poor flush performance.

Maintenance:

- Our Briggs toilet started to leak a few weeks ago where the water line connects to the tank. Briggs Vacuity components are tightly packed in a container tub that fits inside the porcelain tank. I had to remove the porcelain tank, and that container tub and components, to fix this problem, as there was no room for my hands in the tank, otherwise. (That tub was mis-aligned with the porcelain tank, which eventually caused the leak). I bet plumbers charge twice the normal rate to fix this thing, because of all the work involved. On the plus side, the Vacuity uses commonly available parts; a standard water filler assembly and flapper.

Summary:

Although this is a quiet, attractive model, this model is fatally flawed. Incredibly, the Briggs Vacuity design renders plungers useless, which is unacceptable for a toilet that easily clogs. We'll never buy another one.

Note: This bowl uses the Hathaway Tank And Lid


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